Pillars of Gulu

[TheDavii]

Pillars of Gulu says:

Pillars Of Gulu may be used once by a player to steal one bunny and one Carrot from any one opponent. The player may not steal a bunny from one player and a Carrot from another player. The Pillars, bunny and Carrot start in the center of the table and become the property of the first player to roll a 7 on any die for any reason on his own turn. Ownership of the Pillar, bunny and Carrot continues to change during the game to any player that rolls a 7 on his turn.

So, what happens when the bunny is killed or the Carrot is taken by another player? Are the Pillars discarded and the remaining item (bunny or Carrot) remains with the player?

Or does Pillars remain as long as that bunny or that Carrot remain with the player currently possessing Pillars?

[mahobear8]

Apr 13, 2019 5:47:37 GMT -5 TheDavii said:

Pillars of Gulu says:

Pillars Of Gulu may be used once by a player to steal one bunny and one Carrot from any one opponent. The player may not steal a bunny from one player and a Carrot from another player. The Pillars, bunny and Carrot start in the center of the table and become the property of the first player to roll a 7 on any die for any reason on his own turn. Ownership of the Pillar, bunny and Carrot continues to change during the game to any player that rolls a 7 on his turn.

So, what happens when the bunny is killed or the Carrot is taken by another player? Are the Pillars discarded and the remaining item (bunny or Carrot) remains with the player?

Or does Pillars remain as long as that bunny or that Carrot remain with the player currently possessing Pillars?

Let's imagine a few cases to determine this one:

Case 1: Carrot is stolen/returned, Bunny remains
The only simple solutions are that the Pillars are discarded, or that the pillars now control only the bunny.  Since Pillars Of Gulu doesn't describe any case where it is ever discarded, I think it's safest to say it controls the bunny still.

Case 2: Both Carrot and Bunny are stolen or discarded/returned
Again, the Pillars Of Gulu doesn't describe a case where it is ever discarded.  In theory, possession of the Pillars would still be constantly changing.  However, since the possession of it is no longer relevant, most players would probably argue to discard it here.  The relevant difference between doing so or not involves cards like Alliteration Situation, Retrieval, etc.  However, the cards that make this clarification relevant have much stronger applications so probably not worth worrying about the keeping track and just discard it since no one is likely to take advantage of it in the discard anyways.

Now of course you can use the complicated solution and say the Pillars will always have control over the bunny and carrot, regardless of location.  I however think this interpretation is dangerous in a few ways.  It would be ridiculously difficult to keep track of.  There are far too many complicated cases that would have to be resolved that it doesn't make sense at least one of them would have been included in the bunny bits.  For example, you'd expect the bunny bits to say something along the lines of "If the bunny is stolen, it returns to the player possessing the Pillars".  I imagine this complicated solution would lead to several arguments on who owns the bunny.  Imagine if this was the correct interpretation and one player knew it and another didn't.  Player 1 could trade the bunny to Player 2, then immediately gain ownership again.  Seems likes things could get very toxic very quickly so I doubt Jeff would give this clarification.