jtwicw
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Post by jtwicw on Jan 15, 2012 22:28:41 GMT -5
Playing with my son and wife and ran into a problem. the nuclear warhead card was played from my wife to our son. She had all three of her bunnies within the blast range, but she also had the magic spatula card with her. The problem came into that there was no actual weapon card played on her, and we were wondering if the magic spatula can be used on indirect weapon ranges that affect other bunnies? just want to know what is the thought if the magic spatula can be used to save all bunnies, one bunny, or no bunnies when the weapon card is played on someone else's bunny but yours falls in the "blast zone." thanks
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Post by TheDavii on Jan 16, 2012 20:50:22 GMT -5
Playing with my son and wife and ran into a problem. the nuclear warhead card was played from my wife to our son. She had all three of her bunnies within the blast range, but she also had the magic spatula card with her. The problem came into that there was no actual weapon card played on her, and we were wondering if the magic spatula can be used on indirect weapon ranges that affect other bunnies? just want to know what is the thought if the magic spatula can be used to save all bunnies, one bunny, or no bunnies when the weapon card is played on someone else's bunny but yours falls in the "blast zone." thanks The entire rule text from the Quest Card Companion 3.2 says: Allows a Player to counteract any weapon, abduction, or Roaming Red Run card, or may also be used to eliminate Defector Detector, Identity Crisis, Low Jack Kojak, The Mystery Urn (TMS must be used before the first die roll is made), Rainbo, The Trojan Bunny, or all Barriers. The Magic Spatula may also be used to stop the final draw of the Zodiac card before the first Zodiac card is drawn (the drawing of any small Zodiac cards does not occur after the final Carrot is obtained). The card is quite broad and there aren't limitations placed on the elimination of weapons. So, I'd say your wife could play The Magic Spatula, and it would eliminate Nuclear Warhead in its entirety. Of course, that also means that it would not affect your son's bunnies (or any other player's bunnies) either, since the entire weapon is eliminated, not just the effects for your wife's bunnies. So, overall, it would be a waste of two perfectly good cards for your wife to play Nuclear Warhead (NW) and The Magic Spatula (TMS), since TMS undoes NW completely. |
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hanchi
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Post by hanchi on Jan 20, 2012 18:14:16 GMT -5
How about in the case of Area 51? We're were playing last weekend and I had played Area 51 on one of my bunnies. At that point it is removed from the Bunny Circle. A few rounds later someone played Magic Spatula on it to remove the Area 51 card. Can Magic Spatula be played on a Bunny once it is removed from the circle or does it affect only what is currently happening in the Bunny Circle?
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Post by waitreally on Jan 23, 2012 12:19:30 GMT -5
I think what you're asking is are you able to use TMS on a bunny that's been abducted a few rounds prior? Or do you have to use it immediately when the bunny is abducted. My guess is that it'd have to be used immediately, just like you couldn't undo a weapon that was played a few rounds prior.
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jtwicw
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Post by jtwicw on Feb 6, 2012 10:10:05 GMT -5
Thanks everyone, that clears it up a lot. I was just confused. Did not know if indirect attacks could still be blocked. Thanks
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Post by kbmurrieta on Apr 1, 2012 18:38:03 GMT -5
Is the Magic Spatula a one time use card, or can it be used indefinetly throughout the game? Thanks
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Post by TheDavii on Apr 3, 2012 15:31:39 GMT -5
Is the Magic Spatula a one time use card, or can it be used indefinetly throughout the game? Thanks It can be played directly from your hand or run through and saved. However, it can be used once. After it is used, it must be discarded. |
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Post by canada11 on Jun 4, 2012 1:34:57 GMT -5
We had a question come up. Would the magic spatula have to be used to eliminate the weapon before it's used or, could for example you roll first ( and you didn't roll high enough ) THEN you use the magic spatula to get rid of the weapon?
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Post by TheDavii on Jun 4, 2012 9:52:32 GMT -5
We had a question come up. Would the magic spatula have to be used to eliminate the weapon before it's used or, could for example you roll first ( and you didn't roll high enough ) THEN you use the magic spatula to get rid of the weapon? says: Magic Spatula, The (080; Very Special) Allows a Player to counteract any Weapon, abduction, or Roaming Red Run card, or may also be used to eliminate ‘Defector Detector,’ ‘Identity Crisis,’ ‘Low Jack Kojak,’ ‘The Mystery Urn’ (TMS must be used before the first die roll is made), ‘Rainbo,’ ‘The Trojan Bunny,’ or all ‘Barriers.’ ‘The Magic Spatula’ may also be used to stop the final draw of the Zodiac card before the first Zodiac card is drawn (the drawing of any small Zodiac cards does not occur after the final Carrot is obtained). I think that is pretty clear. |
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Post by yorkrambler on Jun 24, 2012 17:19:08 GMT -5
Is the Magic Spatula a one time use card, or can it be used indefinetly throughout the game? Thanks It can be played directly from your hand or run through and saved. However, it can be used once. After it is used, it must be discarded. Thanks for this. I have checked out the Quest Card Companion and cannot see where it says this sorry?  |
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Post by waitreally on Jun 24, 2012 19:25:25 GMT -5
It can be played directly from your hand or run through and saved. However, it can be used once. After it is used, it must be discarded. Thanks for this. I have checked out the Quest Card Companion and cannot see where it says this sorry? The reason you aren't seeing this in the Quest Card Companion is because all Very Special cards work like this unless otherwise stated. |
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Post by brideck on Sept 23, 2012 12:12:43 GMT -5
I'm a little fuzzy on the usage of the word counteract vs eliminate in the entry for this card. Counteract would seem to mean that TMS would need to be played immediately in response to the thing it's trying to counteract, whereas eliminate means it can be played after the fact to get rid of an extant threat.
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vs Ebola Virus - as a Roaming Red, TMS would have to be used as soon as Ebola comes out on the table. It can't be used to eliminate Ebola if it's already been roaming; that's what Sunny Day is for.
vs Trojan Bunny - even though TB is a weapon, this one falls under the eliminate clause so it could be used to defuse the TB even if it's already in play.
Do I have that right?
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Post by TheDavii on Sept 25, 2012 6:17:13 GMT -5
I'm a little fuzzy on the usage of the word counteract vs eliminate in the entry for this card. Counteract would seem to mean that TMS would need to be played immediately in response to the thing it's trying to counteract, whereas eliminate means it can be played after the fact to get rid of an extant threat. Examples: vs Ebola Virus - as a Roaming Red, TMS would have to be used as soon as Ebola comes out on the table. It can't be used to eliminate Ebola if it's already been roaming; that's what Sunny Day is for. vs Trojan Bunny - even though TB is a weapon, this one falls under the eliminate clause so it could be used to defuse the TB even if it's already in play. Do I have that right? I think you're reading too much into that language. I think "counteract" and "eliminate" mean the same thing in KB. I suspect this might be a stylistic case of not wanting to sound redundant in adjacent sentences. |
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Post by tastypastry on Jul 8, 2014 10:12:16 GMT -5
So as not to make a new thread, quick question here.
The problem with magic spatula is that it says that it 'eliminates' the weapon. So here's the scenario that came up last night.
I had Bad Karma on me. I sent a level 7 weapon through which I didn't want to use on myself, so I attacked myself with it and then used magic spatula to eliminate it. I then used my saved rooney's reusables and grabbed the weapon back up and used it on my opponent now that bad karma was gone.
Was I allowed to do that even though I had 'eliminated' the weapon?
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Post by panther1021 on Jul 14, 2014 15:11:05 GMT -5
So as not to make a new thread, quick question here. The problem with magic spatula is that it says that it 'eliminates' the weapon. So here's the scenario that came up last night. I had Bad Karma on me. I sent a level 7 weapon through which I didn't want to use on myself, so I attacked myself with it and then used magic spatula to eliminate it. I then used my saved rooney's reusables and grabbed the weapon back up and used it on my opponent now that bad karma was gone. Was I allowed to do that even though I had 'eliminated' the weapon? In this instance you hit a real gray area. I would say you played this wrong only because in the Quest Card Companion it states for Rooney's reuseables : " ...may be used once by a player to re-use any of his weapons a second time during the same turn of play BEFORE it is discarded. Since the Magic Spatula eliminates (forces it to be discarded) I would say you wouldn't have been able to use the Rooney's card. This is only my interpretation of the rules tho. So take it with a grain of salt. |
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