Famine, Pestlince and Death & Feeding Out of Turn

[mandrilltiger]

I know this seems really nitpicky but I noticed that this card doesn't say what happens if you don't have enough cabbage and water. Also it can a player choose not feed his bunny if he doesn't like the bunny because the card says "must". Also what if a player has a halo bunny or a holo bunny can he choose them.

Can you use a saved Prune danish out of turn.
What about Flo's?

[pantherseven1]

I just played a game over the weekend where this card came up. The card says you have to feed the bunny immediately. So if you don't have the cabbage or prune danish the bunny dies.

I treat it the same as an Everyone Feed the Bunny card meaning you get to choose which bunny. So if you have Halo or Holo then yes, you can choose them to negate the need to feed.

[mandrilltiger]

Good Point Treating this card like an every one feed the bunny card that is played on all players is a good way to treat this card.

Although my second question wasn't answered.
Can you use a saved Danish out of turn?

This question made me think of another question.

Can you feed a bunny out of turn if you don't have to feed it immediately.
This scenario could happen like this:
Player 1 places a feed the bunny (3/2) on Player 2
Player 2 feeds the bunny with the cabbage he had bought in advance.
Player 3 says he can't do that because its not his turn.
Player 2 agrees then...
Player 3 plays LA hot Peppers on his FTB
If Player 2 could feed his bunny out of turn the player could of avoided it.

[pantherseven1]

Ah...now I get that 2nd part of your question.

I would technically say no, you can't feed the bunny until your turn. And I'm not sure you would want to. The reason being is because you don't have to feed your bunny until the end of your turn. It may be more beneficial for you to wait until your turn anyway....in an instance where a FTB is played by one person and you want to use a danish out of turn. Then another player plays an EFTB card...it would be better for you to wait until it is your turn so that you could get rid of all the FTB cards against that one bunny of yours at the same time.

Also, you may get a card on the draw that could help you out. A house rule that I use is that if you have a triplet giving you two turns in a row, you don't have to feed the bunny until your full turn (meaning your 2nd turn) is over with.

[bondboy]

I see no reason why you can't use a saved danish out of turn. I would treat the Famine, Pestilence, and Death as a FTB with Feed Now or Die played on it. So you can use whatever means available to you to feed the bunny from saved cards and vs cards, but it must be fed before play resumes.

[BunnyBasher01]

More good questions...
If you don't have the cabbage and water you are done for. I do think people can give you c&w...but you just can't buy any (don't quote me on the gifting part).
Also, you can opt to just let a bunny die. I think the 'must' is meant to emphasize the 'immediately' (not at the end of your next turn) and not the 'feed' itself. I believe a regular FTB says 'must' as well and you can opt to not feed that bunny(ies).
I don't have my deck out (*ick* A simple typing mistake and that last sentence would have been dirty LOL) but I think F,P,D is a Play Immediately. So you can not opt to play it on the halo or holo...the general rule is that with a PI (bad ones) a bunny must die (or come close to death). And yes I know the 'Buried Plutonium' PI can kill the Holo...
I can't see why using a saved Danish (of any type) or Flo would not be allowed against this card...
As to the example given...if it was at my table and someone wanted to add LA Hot Peppers or Tape Worm (which is of course french for The Hot Peppers and The Tape Worm ;P) to F,P,D...but then someone tried to quickly play the water and cabbage to block that...I'd squash 'em back...and let the feed-boosters be played...
I'm not sure if anything above is supported by rules written anywhere...so do with it what you will!
*BB01*

[mandrilltiger]

Here's where I was confused is that the rules say that you can use saved specials on your turn only. That is my confusion with the danish.

[pantherseven1]

Excellent point. Flo can be used at anytime because she is a carrot, not a special card...but I would tend to agree that you can't use a saved Danish card because it is Special and not Very Special.

[costguy]

Wow you guys are tough. I would cetainly allow a saved special to be used. But I see your point it could be agrued that you could not use the prune danish. But I don't like that interpretation of the rules.

I would say "gifting" is not allowed exceprt from the player who's turn it is.

I agree with flo being used wichever way you go on the rules.

[mandrilltiger]

I'm thinking that you could use the prune danish out of turn if you must do it imdaintly. Just like the Noah's Flood and Diverse Proflio.

[bondboy]

I agree with the notion of a Prune Danish being an exception to the "saved special on your turn" cards. Like Bug-Off, Noah's Flood, and Diverse Portfolio, they counteract events. Other examples would be things like Forever Fed, Two-Time-Tizzy-Toss, Paradise Syndrome, Ultimate Pawn Power, etc. which are all Special cards whose abilities don't just stop when its not your turn. While technically, the Danishes I think could go either way, I feel that in the spirit of the game and in light of the way that Noah's Flood, FF, etc. are used, that Danishes should be and ought be allowed to be used for the FPD card.

[mandrilltiger]

Also it really doesn't make logical sense that bunnies can eat cabbage and water but not a prune danish.

[bondboy]

well it does make logical sense in so much that I've seen real bunnies eat cabbage and drink water, but never partake in a constipation solving pastry.

[mandrilltiger]

let's not get too literal here bond boy.